Lightroom 3 Beta
First Impressions, Problems and the Import Dialog
Part 1 of 4 in Looking at Lightroom 3 Beta
I finally have Lightroom 3 installed and I’ve made a cursory run though the software. So this is the first look at what’s new, what works, and what’s broken right now. Some things look quite good, other are broken.
The biggest problem I’ve seen so far is that importing appears to be majorly broken. Imports though the Import dialog, especially those that require copying files from a media card, choke immediately. In fact the only way I’ve been able to get files into Lightroom 3 is though the folder synchronization and Import -> Add methods. Neither of which are always successful.
Update 2009/11/14: The Import bug that breaks imports has to do specifically with renaming files. If you import and do not rename Lightroom 3 beta has no problem Importing images from cards.
Lightroom 3 Beta is beta software, this means it’s intended for testing and not complete. This release is very rough around the edges, far more so than Lightroom 2 felt when it was released as a public beta. I would not try and use this for anything but testing, in fact some issues in the beta make even that difficult.
Installation, Preferences and First Look
First, Lightroom 3 beta installs along side of Lightroom 2, so you don’t have to worry about Lightroom 3 replacing your production software. In fact, that would be very bad, since LR3 isn’t nearly as feature complete as I seem to remember LR2 being when it was first released to public beta.
LR3 is, however, smart enough to pick up your preferences from your existing install, if you have one. This mean that the first time in LR3 had picked up my metadata and development presets. My development defaults may also have been picked up, but I can’t tell for sure since the importing seems to be flaky at best and partially broken at worst.
Ahhh, the smell of fresh pixels right out of the box. The familiar but slightly different splash screen and the new Library module in the default state.
Speaking of importing, the Import dialog is one of the largest and most obvious changes in Lightroom 3 Beta. I’m not sure yet, if it’s a positive change or not, but it does expose a lot more options in terms of naming imported files and directing them to where you want them.
The New Import Dialog
Like Lightroom 2, the Import dialog has 2 modes a compact mode and an expanded mode that shows previews. The compact mode also simplifies many of the naming and subfolder orginizational options and presents things in a slightly more clean interface.
TouringĀ The Compact Import Dialog
Starting in the upper left corner is the import source. In this case it’s showing my compact flash card reader and it defaults there if there is a card in it. If a media reader isn’t available, the default source appears to be pointed to a local hard drive instead. Mousing over the import source will highlight it and rotate the arrow to point down. Clicking brings up a menu allowing you to select another source from a favorites list and recently used sources.
Moving to the right following the arrow, we have the “action” area. This is where you tell Lightroom what it should do with the files it finds in the import source. In Lightroom 2 this was the drop down menu at the top of the import dialog. The options are:
- Copy as DNG – copy the file from the source and convert it to Adobe’s open RAW format DNG
- Copy – copy the file from the source and leave it in the camera makers proprietary RAW format
- Move – moves the files from the source to the destination, deleting them from the source location
- Add – adds the files to the catalog while leaving them right where they are on the disk.
The import dialog only presents you with the options that make the most sense with one apparent caveat. In the case of flash media, the move and add options are disabled to prevent you from adding files to the catalog that persist on your computer. The odd one is moving from a media card, you can’t apparently do that and that would seem to offer a way to clear the card for it’s next use.
Finally the last part simply tells you where the files are headed. If you have Copy as DNG, Copy or Move selected you can click on the destination side and change where things will go. If you have Add selected, it will read My Catalog and nothing will happen as the files wont be moved anyway.
Across the bottom we have the some more options. The first two icons, on the left, toggle what the bottom half will display. The ‘i’ with the circle around it will show information about file handeling, renaming and what metadata will be applied. The preference icon below it will let you change those settings. The metadata preset and keywords fields work the same as they did in the LR2 import dialog.
The dark area on the bottom that reads Preset and none is where you can select the develop preset that will be applied to the image after import.
The last area in the small dialog is the where you can control how the images will be placed on the target drive. As of yet, I’m still havingi problems getting an import form a flash card to work so I’m still at a bit of a loss as to what they do exactly. I assume that organize does what it did in Lightroom 2 offering “By Date”, “Origional Folders” and “Into one Folder” options. Date Format, which is only visible when “Organize” is set to “By Date” appears to be the date options split out of the Organize field in LR2.
Expanding the Import Dialog
Clicking the square down arrow button in the lower left corner expands the small dialog into the large dialog shown above
The new expanded dialog shows not just thumbnails, but exposes significantly more functionality than the old one did.
The expanded form offers a lot more options. For starters the left column shows all possible sources on the current computer, including mapped network drives. They can be expanded in a tree style allowing the selection of one or more folders.
The center is obviously where the thumbnails are displayed. Some new eye-candy Lightroom 3 adds is to how it displays checked and unchecked files. Unlike in LR2 where you had to rely on the just a thin border around the selected images and the check box, Lightroom 3 now ads a vignette to the unselected images making it readily obvious that they aren’t selected with even a quick glance.
Lightroom 3 has apparently removed the the ability to check or un-check groups by date. However, the new dialog offers a loupe view mode and the ability to sort thumbnails by date, checked state and file name as a consolation prize.
Right clicking on a thumbnail gives you the option of Importing the file strait away or opening it in a Finder/Explorer window.
Along the right side, we have the advanced file handling options. Many of these were in LR 2, some are new. The top pallet gives control over preview sizes, duplicate exclusion and backing up files to a second drive.
The second pallet down controls how the files get renamed on import. New to LR3 is the ability to add a shoot name to your naming sequence. The Shoot name appears to behave just like a second custom text field.
The Apply During Import pallet,handles the attachment of keywords and metadata and a development preset. The final, Destination pallet allows you to select the destination for the files if they are being moved or copies.
First Thoughts
Bearing in mind that LR 3 is beta software I have to say this. The new import dialog is slow. Though I expect that will be fixed by release. The ability to easily preview potential imports, including enlarged loupe views, could come in handy. Though at the same time, I’m not sure exactly how useful it will be, at least for me, since I edit after I import not before.
On the other hand, I think I’m going to miss the ability to exclude or include images by date, since that is something I do use frequently. Also like LR2, you can select a group of images and check and un-check them all simultaneously but clicking the check box for any single image in that selection. However, you still have to find the starting and ending image for a given day to duplicate LR2′s ability to include or exclude images by date.
There is of course one other caveat in this, and again remember this is beta software. I have yet to suceede at getting LR3 to copy an image and import it from a memory card. I can add images already in place to the catalog, with the Add operation, but using the copy operation results in Lightroom doing nothing and ceasing to allow me to reopen the import dialog with out restarting the program.
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- Lightroom 3 Beta: First Impressions, Problems and the Import Dialog
- Lightroom 3 Beta: Library Module and Publishing
- Lightroom 3 Beta: Develop Module
- Lightroom 3 Beta: Slideshow, Print and Web Modules and Watermarking
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Jack said:
Hey! I thought it was just me. I can’t get the import function to work properly either. It’s kind of hard for me to test drive LR3 if I can’t import images from my CF cards. Have you found a work around for this bug yet? (other than manually copying the files to your hard drive and them importing them)
thanks,
jack
V. J. Franke said:
I do that, well not quite.
Since Lightroom 3 isn’t quite workable enough for me to use for anything other than testing, I still do all my importing from cards in Lightroom 2. When that’s done, I sync the containing folder in Lightroom 3.
So if I was importing images shot on 2009/10/22, I would run the import in LR2 to copy them from the card (I use YYYY/MM/DD folders) and go into LR3 and resync the 2009/10 folder and it will pick up the new images.
That works well enough for small imports, 100s to maybe a 1000 or so. I’ve had the sync folder choke and die on an 8000 frame import, at that point I stopped trying.
Chas said:
I have not had a problem importing from CF cards or from folders.
Having not used Lightroom before, it is all new to me, however I am finding my way around and appreciate any help from these forums.
This article may help me solve some quiries about image destination placement
A point about referencer by date. Here in Europe we place the day first and the month second which is the reverse of the United States. This can be confusing if the date is the only reference.
V. J. Franke said:
Chas,
I just checked under Lightroom 2 and Lightroom 3 Beta and both appear to follow the system Localization preferences.
I.e. my Windows install is set to US with dates displayed as MM/dd/yyyy, and they are shown that way in Lightroom. If I change it to yyyy/MM/dd they change in Lightroom on the next program start.
However, all of the dates (at least the ones that are hard coded) in the import dialog are all organized in year, month, day notation. Not US or European notation, this is almost certainly to keep the folders organized by year then month then day in the file-system when sorted by name. It also makes the most sense when sorting them in a hierarchy (i.e. month is a folder inside of year).
If you’re referring to file names that are date based, you can customize those to your liking.
In the Import dialog, under File Renaming, click on the Template field and click edit down at the bottom. A new dialog box will pop up and you can organize the date in the file name however you want.
That said, if you’re seeing dates that don’t follow your localization and aren’t something in the year/month/day format for file names and folders, I would encourage you to comment on it at the official Adobe LR3 Beta forums.
Chas said:
Thank you V.J. it has all been very useful.
simon said:
noticed that when changing from develope to libary image loses definition
Dan WIll said:
I have not been using LR3 much. After looking at a new video from J Kost I decided to test out noise reduction. However when I started LR3 all imported pictures are now blank. If I go to develop module and click on a grey picture the real picture comes up. If I return to the Library module that thumb nail is now visible but only that one. So it seems I have lost all thumb nails. Any thoughts on that. Perhaps I hit some setting by accident. I am not using LR2 much on this laptop. I have not loaded LR3 on my main desk top. And I have only a few pictures ( 500-1000) in the LR3 library. I can always reload the program or the pictures.
V. J. Franke said:
Dan,
Since LR3 beta can’t convert LR2 catalogs it doesn’t get the benefit of having the thumbnails from your LR2 catalog. Normally, when you import the images previews should have been generated. In this case it looks like that didn’t happen for some reason.
The easiest solution is to generate new previews for your images, no need to reinstall or re-import anything.
You might also want to check next time you go in the import dialog to make sure that you’re building some kind of preview when you do more imports. In the full import window, it’s the first thing under File Handling on the right side of the window.